In June I spoke with David Fuller of Rebel Wisdom about “Our Pandemic Psychedelic Trip.” Starting off with Grof’s notion of psychedelics as “non-specific amplifiers,” David dropped us into the deep end of the pool: how does our contemporary reality resemble tripping? Others have written wonderfully about this curiously pressing topic (at least for heads), and our conversation here just scratched the surface, even as we wrestled with conspiracies, paranoia, not-knowing, viruses, and the strange wonder of it all.