I love doing podcasts because I get to meet new people, and I especially enjoy hanging out across the generations. I really enjoyed speaking with Collin Morris for his podcast Zion 2.0. I hadn’t thought about the title of the podcast when we started talking, but it soon became clear that Collin had some experience and deep things to say about Mormonism, one of my favorite topics of religious history in America. So the first chunk of this chat was a surprise (for both of us) voyage into LDS land, and from there into a fresh conversation about cults and theater.